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I think if every player pays an extra 5 or 10 dollars we can get shot clocks which will definitely make it even more competitve and it will definitely attract more players.
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every league should have shot clocks its bs how many games last season teams would have a 2 point lead with 3 minutes left and already start holding the ball that and referees should be the number one priorities ive played organized ball for almost 25 years and never seen worse refs in my life hands down
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This has been brought up several times and his been looked into before. Unfortunately its not as simple as buying a shot clock and plugging it in.
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Money wise it shhould not be a problem if everyone contributes 5 or 10 dollars. IF the problem is with learning how to work it, and or getting people to work it, we can get players who are not playing to run it and at least train them.
I think its a good idea
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It is a logistical nightmare to say the least. The shot clock is not necessary and it will only cause confusion and anger because it will not be handled up to the standards that we would want it to be. Although this will probably not go into effect and will also be confusing for some, it is worth a shot to suggest. If the league wants to institute a timing rule on possessions under 3 or 2 minutes to play then they can do so they can do so without a shot clock. If a team has the ball with: > 3:00 then end of SC is 2:30 > 2:30 then end of SC is 2:00 > 2:00 then end of SC is 1:30 > 1:30 then end of SC is 1:00 > 1:00 then end of SC is 0:30 I played ball sometimes with guys who do something similar. We had 10 minute game clocks. And if a team got the ball with over a minute to play then they have until 0:30 to shoot. It really works well and we never had an issue with it. The system obviously wont be a set SC since a team can have the ball anywhere from 30 seconds to 59 seconds but its better than nothing. Edited by user Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:24:04 AM(UTC)
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moose21 wrote:It is a logistical nightmare to say the least. The shot clock is not necessary and it will only cause confusion and anger because it will not be handled up to the standards that we would want it to be.
Although this will probably not go into effect and will also be confusing for some, it is worth a shot to suggest.
If the league wants to institute a timing rule on possessions under 3 or 2 minutes to play then they can do so they can do so without a shot clock.
If a team has the ball with:
> 3:00 then end of SC is 2:30
> 2:30 then end of SC is 2:00
> 2:00 then end of SC is 1:30
> 1:30 then end of SC is 1:00
> 1:00 then end of SC is 0:30
I played ball sometimes with guys who do something similar. We had 10 minute game clocks. And if a team got the ball with over a minute to play then they have until 0:30 to shoot. It really works well and we never had an issue with it. The system obviously wont be a set SC since a team can have the ball anywhere from 30 seconds to 59 seconds but its better than nothing. This is a great idea but it will be very hard to keep track of the time. A bleep clock will always be there, and it is noticeable and will make playing a lot funner, and a lot of points will be scored. It doesnt hurt to try a shot clock,
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It would be a wasted investment if they bought them then decided it was not worth keeping. And most possessions dont last that long.
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They having us pay an extra 30 dollars for reversible jerseys, now thats a waste.
I think the shot clock idea is well worth a try, if it dont work out then chuck them
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alialsaidi wrote:They having us pay an extra 30 dollars for reversible jerseys, now thats a waste.
I think the shot clock idea is well worth a try, if it dont work out then chuck them Having to pay for semi-permanent jerseys, will drive down cost in the long run for the league and for players. I wouldn't exactly call it a waste. |
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It is a novel idea, but it also creates a lot of overhead. Accuracy, no matter how good statskeepers are, would be an issue. Think about if a shot grazes the rim and the ensuing argument whether the shot clock should reset.
The league as a whole shot 946/1708 FT in Fallball. That's a paltry 55%. If you're worried about teams holding the ball, then play better D or foul. |
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Thats part of the game. It doesnt take that long for the referees to get together an make a 2 second decision about whether or not the ball grazed the rim.
If we cant try it how will we ever know if it'll work or not.
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alialsaidi wrote:They having us pay an extra 30 dollars for reversible jerseys, now thats a waste. The jersey is a one-time fee for all future seasons. It brings down the price $175 per team per season. For 8 players thats $20 savings each season. Its clearly not a waste, and with the league growing we will no longer have to have 3 colors that look very similar. Home wears white, away wears black. |
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alialsaidi wrote:Thats part of the game. It doesnt take that long for the referees to get together an make a 2 second decision about whether or not the ball grazed the rim.
If we cant try it how will we ever know if it'll work or not. 1. Usually leagues that adopt the shot-clock have the luxury of Video reviews, and that's not only for whether the ball grazed the rim as AR said, but there would also be the controversy of possession/who had control of the ball. But since we do not have official reviews, it would be just another reason to attack the refs/stat-keepers. 2. As moose mentioned, it would be a wasted investment if we don't keep them, seeing as if you google shot clocks, all of them seem to be in the $1000-$2000 price range. 3. Operating a shot clock is not as easy as it seems. We can't simply ask random people to work it. Another statkeeper would have to be hired and trained. |
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moose21 wrote:It is a logistical nightmare to say the least. The shot clock is not necessary and it will only cause confusion and anger because it will not be handled up to the standards that we would want it to be.
Although this will probably not go into effect and will also be confusing for some, it is worth a shot to suggest.
If the league wants to institute a timing rule on possessions under 3 or 2 minutes to play then they can do so they can do so without a shot clock.
If a team has the ball with:
> 3:00 then end of SC is 2:30
> 2:30 then end of SC is 2:00
> 2:00 then end of SC is 1:30
> 1:30 then end of SC is 1:00
> 1:00 then end of SC is 0:30
I played ball sometimes with guys who do something similar. We had 10 minute game clocks. And if a team got the ball with over a minute to play then they have until 0:30 to shoot. It really works well and we never had an issue with it. The system obviously wont be a set SC since a team can have the ball anywhere from 30 seconds to 59 seconds but its better than nothing. Love this idea actually. The issue is really only with the end of games. Refs can easily apply this for the last five minutes of the game simply by yelling out the shooting deadline once possession has been established. Time to shoot would be no less than 31 seconds and no more than 60 seconds. Easier than a shot clock, easy to implement and attacks the issue directly.
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i was watching a game at CITY SPORTS last night and they actually did the whole shot clock thing under 2 minutes ..
there really wasnt a shot clock ..
the scoreboard person was shouting it out ..
no one could hear him ..
he counted down to 0 and the referee was right next to the table and he didnt say anything and let the play go on ..
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Just think about if for a second, if this league wants to continue to grow, when people that do not know about this league think, there are shot clocks, they will automatically will think its a good league, with good competition.
There are roughly 150 players. IF each person puts down 10 dollars
150 x 10= 1500 dollars.
They start at 300 dollars.
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alialsaidi wrote:Just think about if for a second, if this league wants to continue to grow, when people that do not know about this league think, there are shot clocks, they will automatically will think its a good league, with good competition.
There are roughly 150 players. IF each person puts down 10 dollars
150 x 10= 1500 dollars.
They start at 300 dollars.
i agree with alisaidi keep chewing that qat my dude!
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so.... that means no shot clock
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